Comments:
Mel - 2004-08-12 08:52:10
That is *nasty*. Ugh.
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Flashlightning - 2004-08-12 08:54:15
Honestly, I have no sympathy. That's flat out ridiculous.
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Chunk - 2004-08-12 08:58:01
4 foot 10 and 480 lbs...that's about 100 lb/ft. She musta had a cross section like a sperm whale. I want to know who built the couch, because that's one well built piece of furniture
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Ahtawulfa - 2004-08-12 09:04:26
O.m.g. Chunk, that was the funniest thing next to reading Unkka Bob.
I was absolutely disgusted and then to read that there would most likely be "negligence" charges brought against the guy who lived with her.
Puhleeze.
Fatass.
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telemarketer - 2004-08-12 09:06:10
The story is sad, yet ridiculous. And whoever kept shoveling her food and never sought help should be charged with neglect.
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magistr8 - 2004-08-12 09:28:43
"She musta had a cross section like a sperm whale"
oh my god! i spewed coffee all over my puter on that one.
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pinkcandykisses - 2004-08-12 09:36:49
shame friends isnt on anymore.. phoebe cud have sang the smellyfatwomanonthecouchsong instead of smelly cat.!! and worn the t shirt...
but honestly ewwwww
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amy - 2004-08-12 10:03:49
Bob, I want to thank you for saving my life today.
See, I'm gonna be going through a divorce soon, complete with awful custody fight and fight over the house. I was thinking of just giving up and sitting on the couch at home and eating crap for years. I have changed my mind.
Thank you again.
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kaki321 - 2004-08-12 10:22:42
where was her family? her friends? very sad indeed. she needed help.
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warcrygirl - 2004-08-12 10:35:15
So sad that taxpayers had to foot the bill to get her to the hospital when all boyfriend had to do was feed her fucking soup and salads until she could get up. I can't figure out how he lived there, I can't stand a litter box smell so I've trained my cat to shit outside. Not on my couch.
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cheri - 2004-08-12 10:36:15
Everyone is looking for someone to blame........... My first thought was why would someone allow them to get like that. If anyone could have done something it should have been to bring in a large mirror.
Sad indeed.
They didnt mention if they found the remote to the tv and where???
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themis - 2004-08-12 10:59:16
Yup, that was it. That was the grossest entry ever. You'll never top that one.
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maya - 2004-08-12 11:05:02
personal responsibility, people, if you can't tell that sitting and shitting on a couch for six goddamn years is dangerous, you shouldn't live. i mean, were you to survive, you might finally get off your ass and sit on Onkel Bob instead.
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HRT - 2004-08-12 11:11:03
That was quite possibly the worst, most absolutely disgusting story that I have EVER heard. Holy shit!
How in God's name could someone let another human being sit in their own feces for 6 fucking years?!?
"after awhile you don't really notice the smell so much... and dam she was good company... if she pissed me off I'd just put the remote control across the room and leave the tv tuned to C-span"
bottomline. EWWWW
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BigpimpinMBA - 2004-08-12 12:32:41
What all of you may be hearing is the sound of me wretching in the far away land of New Jersey. I probably could have gone a few months longer without the knowledge of the human turtle with a couch for a shell. She could have made a fortune if they could have gotten her on Trimspa or something. I'd love to see those before and after pictures.
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Jackie - 2004-08-12 12:36:32
I'm with BigPimpin' here in NJ. That was definitely hard to read...reminded me of 'What's Eating Gilbert Grape?'...makes me sad, too.
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lindzay18 - 2004-08-12 13:02:59
wow i would soooo wear that t-shirt...unclebob you should make t-shirts like that. i would wear it proud. if you think abotu it..the whole story is kind of sad. i mean who sits on a couch for 6 years?
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Lisa W. - 2004-08-12 13:25:06
That story and everyone's comments here are exactly why I'm having gastric bypass surgery in about six weeks.
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KtZeAyns - 2004-08-12 13:50:28
Uck.
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Lindsey - 2004-08-12 13:53:33
I saw that story on the news last night. (I had nightmares!) They showed a video of people carrying her out, couch and all. It was sad. I dont see how anyone can stay in the exact same spot for 6 years without moving once, especially when your sitting in your own piss and shit. I dont understand how the people in the duplex next door couldnt smell her?!. YUCK! EWW!
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To Lisa W. - 2004-08-12 14:01:04
Aww Lisa, good luck with your surgery. I hope it's a great springboard for you into a healthy lifestyle. We all deserve a fresh start. I would love to have the surgery but cannot because of heart problems. Being overweight can be overwhelming, and so often is misunderstood by those who are not. I do not overeat, but I do not exercise, therefore I consume more calories than I burn off, hence my weight issues. Comments here can be cruel and thoughtless. Sometimes this site makes me sad.
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Bingoguy - 2004-08-12 14:17:54
Ok, I thought that story would be the most shocking thing I was going to see but then I noticed they had a picture of the woman covered up to her head on the couch with emergency workers around the couch. The shocking part was the "Click for Larger Image". I, of course, clicked because I'm a sick bastard.
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hotcarl - 2004-08-12 14:32:59
I am very offended that you would make fun of Carla. I really did try to get her off the couch. It's not my fault some idiot added Food TV to her cable subscription.
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ibeejd - 2004-08-12 15:04:45
*gag*
I cant even begin to understand.....
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Lisa E. - 2004-08-12 15:41:41
First of all, no one here is making disgusting comments about overweight people in general. I could stand to lose some weight myself, but I don't take offense when someone dares to comment on a 480 lb. woman who hadn't moved in 6 years except to shovel food from container to mouth. The only people who should really be offended by the comments here are those who currently reside in (literally IN) a sofa, shitting and pissing on themselves because they are too fat and lazy to even ROLL THE FUCK OVER!!!! And if there is anyone here living that way, then yes, be offended, if that's what it will take to get you to move a muscle, wash your body and use a toilet so you don't end up like couch lady.
Second, where did the money come from to pay for all the food that maintained her weight? My husband and I both have decent, full time jobs, and feel that too much of our money goes to groceries. Who did her shopping? Who cooked her food? Who brought it to the sofa for her? That person probably SHOULD get into some kind of trouble. That's like a slow murder.
Third, can you even IMAGINE the kind of pain that woman had to be in? When I laid in bed with the flu for 2 days, writhing around delirious, I still started to feel like I was getting bed sores and couldn't wait to take a nice, cool shower. Her skin must have been screaming with open sores.
Jesus Christ...I just can't fathom it. Truth really is stranger than fiction sometimes.
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If Lisa E... - 2004-08-12 15:56:40
would read some of the other comment entries she would see that lots of comments are made about overweight people in UB's comments section...check out the Krispy Kreme drink entry...check out UB's entry about the fat man's crossing...check it out before you speak. Yep, this story is a true outlier, way outside of the norm though...but in general, the fat insutls fly around here like crazy
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Lisa E. - 2004-08-12 16:16:03
Well, my comments in THIS thread refer to comments in THIS thread, but I will say that in my opinion, Uncle Bob's site isn't the place to come if you are looking for warm fuzzies about things like Krispy Kreme drinks and Fat Man's Squeeze. If I was sensitive to people cruelly discussing women who watch too much television, on a site that makes no apologies for having dark humor sprinkled throughout (love you UB!), then I would probably choose not to read the comments, instead of expecting the subject to be tread upon lightly by everyone else, simply because I watch more television than I probably should.
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Katz - 2004-08-12 16:24:15
Oh good, a cat fight! I love UB's comment section. Never a dull moment.
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supernatural - 2004-08-12 16:29:35
Discriminating/making comments about people who watch too much television versus discriminating/making hurtful comments about overweight people for sport on a "dark humor" website? Oh yeah Lisa, that's the same thing. Uh huh. Sure. Next you will say that all of the racial comments are just in harmless fun too? Maybe UB's are, but some of the posters in the comments are down right ignorant bastards.
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Lisa E. - 2004-08-12 16:39:44
Again, UB's site is not known for being the most polictically correct place to hang out. One of the reasons I love it so. I'm not going to compare being overweight to being born without a limb, because one thing a person generally has some control over, and the other, they do not. If you feel bad because you, for whatever reason, are overweight, then talk of being overweight might be a sensitive subject for you. Doesn't mean it has to be for the rest of the world, and that everyone should avoid the subjects you don't like. Racism is different - we have no control over our race, so I don't consider it to be in the same realm at all. You can keep trying to lump all insults, no matter what the subject matter, into the same pile, but I will never agree with that. Especially not on someone's personal site, where he can write about anything he wants to write about, even if it offends people. If I disagree with him, I don't post any comments. If I agree, then I do. This is not a government public access site, so why should anyone's comments in the forum be criticized or deemed ignorant or unfair by anyone other than the person who pays for and maintains this site?
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Katherine - 2004-08-12 16:49:15
I read stories like this and wonder what the fuck happened between the time this woman was an innocent sweet cooing baby and a gigantic glue ball of fat and feces? What happens to people to get them so far off track? Does excessive consumption of Haagen daz cause retardation?
"and more than likely a few thousand pepperoni stains?" - this line generated a 450 lb laugh out of me I can tell you because just imagine how many pizzas she must have eaten.
What makes you think she used maxi pads? If the woman can shit and pee directly on a couch she very likely bled into it too, that is if she could even have a period. Regarding those masked men who had to go in there and get her out all I can say is GOOD GOD, some people get all the good jobs!
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cosmicrayola - 2004-08-12 16:59:25
Coming to UB's diary expecting sweetness is like watching Jerry Springer expecting intelectual stimulation. Difference is, I love my UB. Oh, and BTW, after removing her from the couch, they found Richard Simmonds and Jimmy Hoffa. Ok, hang me.
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Katherine PS - 2004-08-12 17:02:40
Re all the commentary about the reaction to this story. My sympathies are entirely with the sofa right now. I realize furniture is inanimate but when you break down matter it all boils down to energy. Some energy is more dense than others. Humans are SUPPOSED TO BE LESS DENSE THAN SAY ROCK... but in this case I would argue the sofa had more energy than the woman welding herself to it and let's face it, that couch had NO POWER TO GET UP AND LEAVE. (I can bet if that sofa could talk it would sob "I so wish someone had sent me to the Salvation Army ten years ago...")
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Lisa E. - 2004-08-12 17:05:01
Katherine, you just cracked me up. Job envy, definitely. I rarely get to lift anything heavier than a stapler at work, and certainly nothing stinkier than White-Out. Time to go on a job hunt, now that I know what some people get to do. What do you suppose the pay is for that? I also wonder if her "friend" who tried so hard to get her off the sofa a few times, was the same person who shoveled away the piles of poop for her? Because you just know, with the sheer volume of food that had to be consumed to keep the weight up like that, the piles of shit would have eventually buried her if there wasn't someone hauling it off. And he probably wasn't even being paid! I wish the article would have included more details like, why were the paramedics called in the first place? It sounds like she was alive, and died as a result of them trying to remove her, but I would like to know what prompted the call to the paramedics. It's one thing to call because she died, but considering her situation, what in the world could have been so extreme that made Herman finally decide that it was time to dial 911? This story isn't really even about her being fat so much as it is about a real life horror story that doesn't even seem like it could possibly be true. People heavier than her have managed to not fuse with furniture, so it's got to be more than just weight. I don't see how a person could survive for 6 years with so much filth touching them. Seems like the bodily fluids would have eventually poisoned her by seeping through her skin or something. The mind truly boggles.
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Lisa E. - 2004-08-12 17:10:07
They didn't mention how much loose change was gathered during the autopsy, but I'm guessing that there was probably enough to at least buy a Taco Supreme.
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supernatural - 2004-08-12 17:11:36
If you read closely, and please try to do so...I was commenting about the posters, not UB at all. This comments section is fun, but can be a free-for-all for meanness, ignorance and insults. The so-called "appeal" of the political incorrectness in the comments section is like a veiled excuse to showcase your disgust for fat people (who, by the way don't ALL have a choice with their health condition), among other groups who are routinely discriminated against. All of the closet assholes and bigots come out. I hardly think many people who are so forthright here would talk that way in real life to their nice, but overweight co worker. That's all I was saying - some (a small minority) of the POSTERS in the comments section can be downright ignorant bastards. Is that too hard to understand or should I type slower?
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Lisa E. - 2004-08-12 17:17:14
I'm sorry, I might be mistaken here, but the comment about typing slower...was that some kind of insult toward dumb people? This isn't the place for that! Not all people have control over their intelligence level, and some people don't read real fast! How rude, and ignorant, to come here of all places, and insult the intelligence of strangers! Would you say that to a friend or coworker who has a learning disability? No, it's just easier to do that here, because you're anonymous. Unless supernatural is your real name. Perhaps you should insult slow people on a more appropriate thread. Doesn't UB have a post about dyslexia or something? This is where the couchlady talk is, and so far nothing has been mentioned about her reading and comprehension skills.
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supernatural - 2004-08-12 17:28:44
Oh Lisa, you are so cool. One day when I grow up I wanna be as clever and funny as you. Oh and just as mature. Oh and maybe I can learn how to deflect my answers when I realize I have just been proven wrong. Nice job Lisa!
I bet Lisa is a Republican. Only Republicans are that damn funny.
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Lisa E. - 2004-08-12 17:42:31
Gosh, yes, that's IT! It's not that someone who is hypersensitive about a subject that other people aren't hypersensitive about could possibly be wrong assuming that the entire world should be more careful of what they say, so as not to offend the hypersensitive person. Instead, the person who disagrees with the hypersensitive person is not only wrong, but also somehow a...Republican? Yeah, I can see the connection. IN CRAZY WORLD! I'm so done with this. Reasoning with those who cannot reason isn't something I normally waste time on. In fact, this is the first time I've ever even argued with someone on the internet, so I find it sad that when I do, it's to defend those who insult fat people. I would have expected it would be more about something that is actually an issue I care about, like the ethical treatment of animals or something. And if I were going to get on a soapbox about something like that, it wouldn't be at this site. What a buzzkill.
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Katherine - 2004-08-12 17:44:05
Hey now, most fat is a choice. Undeniably so. There might be rare cases where it isn't but obesity didn't become an epidemic in America because human genes changed. It became an epidemic because fast food and convenience foods and the evolution of refined foods made it easier for people to consume more, and the structure of the foods doesn't result in lasting satisfaction i.e. refined carbohydrates leave you feeling hungrier sooner.
What's more, most people do not exercise. Most people would rather drive a single block to the local convenience store or fast food outlet than walk there. Walking out to the car is not exercise. To get sufficient exercise to burn calories you have to increase your heart rate by at least 50%. That means you have to sweat and get red in the face and pant. For at least 30 minutes every two days. Few people do that because it isn't much fun. But you can't eat at MacDonalds and rarely exercise and then whine that somehow you're a genetic misfit because you're 100 pounds overweight. Most people can lose weight if they make an effort, but making an effort is hard.
The story of this woman should generate disgust and I can't think of a single reason anyone wouldn't be disgusted by a human being who purposefully sat on a couch to the point where she used it as her own personal toilet. Reactions of disgust to appalling human stories like these (note: you don't find this bizarre behaviour in the animal kingdom) is healthy and normal.
If this story is to have any value at all, perhaps it will motivate others to reduce their excessive consumption of tv and food.
Obviously this particular woman had serious psychological problems. No one can be happy and well adjusted and end up shitting on couches. In this respect the woman deserves some compassion.
But I know someone who has been told she'll die if she doesn't stop eating donuts and she won't stop. What's more, she eats donuts and then denies she eats them knowing she's lying. There are infinitely more people like this person than there are genetic mutants.
66% of Americans are now considered obese. I was on a cruise a couple of years ago and 99% of the people on board resembled the ship. The slenderest women amongst this group were in the 200 lb range. Unfucking believable. I watched them help themselves to 10 course meals day after day. It's become normal to be fat! There's even a movement of fat people who advocate fat being normal. It's sickening.
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Lisa W. - 2004-08-12 17:48:24
OK, so now I feel a need to clarify my comments. Were my feelings hurt by UB's posting or the comments here? No. Absolutely not. But it did reinforce my choice to do something about it.
This story is humorous on it's face. I wonder how she let herself get into this place as well. But it is a fear of going to that place that is making me take the drastic step of permanently altering my body in a desperate effort to avoid that place.
No one can understand what it's like to be trapped in your own body unless you've been there.
Now, on to lighter things...
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Loki's Concubine - 2004-08-12 20:33:01
While I have a sense of humor and EVERYONE should laugh at themselves in some respect, I have to say that I don't find this funny. I find it sad. Unless you've been there you have NO IDEA what it's like. No, there's no excuse. It's something we do to ourselves. You make the choice. And while I could try to explain what it's like I won't, because I'm sure already that people will be posting in response to me. That's ok, call me fat ass. LOL Nothing anyone says can compare with the hatred you feel for yourself. I just hope that one day everyone who has a snide comment to make is in similar shoes. Karma's a bitch. Be prepared.
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Lisa W. - 2004-08-12 20:48:54
Yeah, what Loki's Concubine said...
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Gwen - 2004-08-12 21:53:32
All I wanna know from Lisa E. is what UB's ass tastes like, and if it's low-fat.
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Megan - 2004-08-12 22:00:06
That story is so sad. But what is even worse is the comments here. *sigh* I think everything has been said already though. I agree with Loki's Concubine as well.
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Woman of Scorn - 2004-08-12 23:51:44
I started not to say anything, because as someone said before, don't come here if you don't want to read someone else's opinions. Everyone has a right to their own opinion whether or not it's agreed by others.
However...if we can sit here and laugh at someone's sad situation like that...someone dying in such a dehumanizing way and not feel one drop of compassion....then what the fuck does that say about you?
To sit there and make a post about somene's very sad misfortune for a good laugh, is horrible. The story listed nothing of her mental status or physical status as to why she ended up this way. This could very well have been something beyond her control.
Making assumptions that she just shoveled the food in her mouth all willy nilly just shows how uneducated people can be.
On a personal not to Lisa E., if all you want is a Taco Supreme email me and I'll give you the money. But only if you promise to shut the fuck up and shove that taco in your mouth.
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Mojey - 2004-08-13 00:31:44
Having a go at Lisa E?? I just dont get some ppl, I thought it was natural for most folks to side with the reasonable, intelligent one. Obviously not. W.O.S., hows about you direct that scorn to that 13 year old called supernatural. Lisa E - you are right.
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Loki's Concubine - 2004-08-13 00:52:59
WAIT WAIT! I'm sorry.... you're calling the person who made this comment the reasonable, intelligent one? "Lisa E. - 2004-08-12 17:10:07
They didn't mention how much loose change was gathered during the autopsy, but I'm guessing that there was probably enough to at least buy a Taco Supreme."
Umm... ok yeah. THAT shows a LOT of intellligence.
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Woman of Scorn - 2004-08-13 00:58:01
Tag, you're it!
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Sweetface - 2004-08-13 01:09:43
I read the story, then I read UB's commentary, then I read the comments.
The story is sad, scary, and truly horribly bothersome. The idea that a person could sit down one day and just never get back up frightens me. The idea that a person can sit there in their own piss and shit bothers me that much more. But those two things also point to this woman being mentally unstable - and unstable might not be a strong enough word.
UBs commentary was... interesting.
The comments left to his commentary have been from sympathetic to plain old rude. Yes, at some point she still had the control and the choice to get up - and it sucks that she didn't do that. She didn't make a good choice. But I doubt she *wanted* to be where she was either.
It's sad that she died the way she did. it's sad she lived the way she did. And it's sad that so many people are such twits.
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AnonymousButTrue - 2004-08-13 02:04:36
How can this happen? I have some experience, mind you it is not of the same order of magnitude as this. I am probably about 300 lbs right now, 5-11, 36 yrs old, scots-irish. I come from a family where my dad's side was slightly chubby to obese and my mom's side was thin and lanky. Throughout high school and college I played organized sports, some seasons 2 sports at a time, lifted weights, ran at one point as much as 5 miles every other day. Once I graduated I kept playing hockey because I loved the sport, played tennis for recreation not so much competitively. Around the age of 28 I stopped being religiously active, dropped my sports dealing with an ankle injury that kept coming back, bad knees, after a while it just didn't seem to be worth the trouble spending every other weekend in urgent care, or in doctors offices during my lunchbreaks getting my knees drained - get it? So I started putting on weight. Made some new friends. We like to eat a lot. I went from a very lean and muscular 190 lbs at 24 to almost 300 at 36. What happened? I stopped placing high value on exercize and started enjoying food. Am I ashamed of my weight? No. I know perfectly well why I am overweight (probably technically obese). I can laugh at fat people jokes just like almost everyone else, doesn't bother me. I don't feel like I get shunned, I don't feel like I am 'missing out' on anything. The point I am trying to make is that you live your life in your mind. Don't let people get to you. The couch lady had a very unfortunate combination of problems that led to her untimely demise. 1) No energy, 2) Access to a source of food that did not require ambulation on her part, 3) Negligent caretakers and family, 4) Inability to cry for help, 5) A couch built well enough to double as a living coffin. These problems are all individually surmountable, but taken coincidentally they add up to a gruesome death.
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Chunk - 2004-08-13 03:05:02
How about some sympathy for the poor fucking coroner who has to chop her up and find out how she died?...I don't think a scalpel's going to do the job...He's probably searching eBay for a flensing knife right now.
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Kelly - 2004-08-13 07:28:16
That is a very sad story. I too, read the story, UB's comment, and the comments here. As I was reading UB's commentary it dawned on me why I love him so much. It's because he dares to say the stuff we all think but won't say. Sure he might not say it to his coworkers but he says it somewhere.
Nonetheless, that is a sad, sad story. And even though they were mentioned only briefly, there were children involved!!! Someone really needs to do something about THAT. Obviously if nobody could go into the house without a gas mask on, then it was not a fit place for children to be cared for. UB if you see any follow up to this story please share!
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Pillowbqqk - 2004-08-13 09:04:40
LisaE,
Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, this woman had some mental health issues? Geez, don't you have an ounce of sympathy or empathy in your little cold heart?
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Lisa E. - 2004-08-13 09:16:44
Ever notice how you can put in someone else's name and type in a comment as if it was from them? That's cool.
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supernatural - 2004-08-13 09:19:20
George Bush rules!
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Katz - 2004-08-13 10:10:28
Lisa E You Rock.
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Lisa E. - 2004-08-13 10:45:34
Or am I? Not all the comments from me are necessarily from me, but the fun part is trying to decide which are which! :)
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Jilder - 2004-08-13 10:47:39
For gods' sake people this is the Internet. It's not a deb ball. Part of the allure of it is that you *can* say all the horrible little things swimming around in your head, without the fear of being thumped on it. It's not politically correct, or nice, or kind. If someone wants to let rip with a scathing remark, or demand your sympathy, or call you a republican, they can.
And this isn't a support group, it's Uncle Bob. The blog is one of the least PC I read, and I read it *because* he's so open about what's going on in that funny-looking head of his.
Personally, I found the story horrifying. But the commentary was worth a giggle or two. Somewhat disappointed by the comments, though - both from the barbed and the bleeding hearts.
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ochweidnit - 2004-08-13 10:50:01
It's wonderful that a lot of people are emphasising that one's physical appearance should not be the primary judge of a person's character. It's not wonderful that a grotesquely obese woman died in a couch. But guess what? Life is a series of awful, tragic events, one after the other, and you either have a puerile giggle and get on with your life, or get all serious and defensive and activist and in people's faces and generally annoy the living shit out of everyone else, without actually making life different for those who are the butt of the joke. Highly likely the woman had mental health issues. Highly likely that her "carers" contributed to her condition. Also, un-fucken-deniably funny that she was "one" with her couch. A sense of humour is one of the attributes that psychologists use to determine overall intelligence, so yes, Loki's, Lisa E is probably intelligent. I love fat people, I love fat people who know they are, and who know WHY they are. I don't like disturbingly obese blobs who use all the health budget to deal with their diabetes and their triple bypass surgeries and their orthopedic mishaps from carrying all the extra weight on joints that were never meant to bear truckloads of fat, when people with genetic diseases, things they were born with and can't do anything about, are pushed down the list because they're not immediately dying from their issues. I hate that it has become taboo to tell a person that they are unhealthy if they are fat, and I don't mean slightly chubby, when it's ok to scream "anorexia!" at anyone who has a definitive shoulderline walking dowwn the street. And some people, fat or not, need a humour transplant. Society says "no" to shitting on couches, and if someone does, I will laugh at them. Thats why they made that guy in Trainspotting shit his bed. Coz it was funny.
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Beaker - 2004-08-13 11:19:23
Itis okay to make off color jokes about anything and everything, *except* people who are overweight. Thats the line,and it shouldn't be crossed right? ANd in a forum about a person who died because she was too fat to move, people should be careful not hurt the feelings of anyone else who is fat and might be reading here. everything else is fair game. AM Iunderstanding right? Or maybe it is just olay for some people to make jokes and not others. Either way, the story is crazy!!!!
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Squeakster - 2004-08-13 11:31:59
This is the first UB comments section I've had to skip a lot of because of bickering.
The couch lady is a victim. Everytime I see something in the media about someone too big to get up or too big to leave their own house, I know that an enabler is lurking in the shadows somewhere. It is quite possible that she sought out someone who would do her bidding thus entangling them in her demise but she is a victim just the same.
We all have a somewhat morbid sense of humor or we wouldn't read UB.
I once had to restrain myself from guffawing during Funeral services because I couldn't stop watching a fly crawing on the deceaseds nose.
I was only able to contain myself until we were in the car on the way to the cemetery when another family member mentioned it in an outburst of laughter.
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my story - 2004-08-13 12:45:32
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I think the point has gotten completely lost here. Is it okay to generally make fun of every person on the planet who carries extra weight? Probably there aren't many people who think so. If you are upset by fat jokes, then why come here to read these messages at all, knowing that there would be insensitive comments about weight? Was it that you were looking for a fight, and someone took the bait?
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When did Uncle Bob's site become the Weight Watchers support group? Damn, I've been gone too long.
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my story - 2004-08-13 13:09:39
Hey flowbie, not sure if you are asking me, or someone else. I like to come here, and will continue to do so. When I started to read through the comments, I had no idea where the thread was going. When I posted I was just trying to put some perspective around my feelings about the weight issue in general, and the insults that typically occur. I won't stop reading UB. I like his diary a lot. And I, personally, am not looking to fight with anyone. I don't have the time, energy, or interest to do so.
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flowbie - 2004-08-13 13:21:16
Wan't speaking to you in particular, but anyone who came to the message board directly attached to that particular story, and then decided anyone making comments about weight was being too mean, or ignorant or whatever. Didn't tell anyone not to come to his site, and never would. Just seems to me this is an odd place to fight the battle against people who make fat jokes, but maybe I'm as insensitive as some of the other horrible hated people here. Have plenty of weight to lose myself, but don't think people being disgusted by that woman's story has anything to do with me and my weight. Not taking it personally makes the difference.
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Wow - look at all the Lisa E.'s in here. Taco lovers, tricksters... Thank you, flowbie, for saying what I was trying to say yesterday, only better.
For some reason it's not okay for me to think people should be allowed to make fat jokes here about the story which led us here, but it IS okay for someone to say anyone who makes a fat joke here is an cruel, insensitive bastard, or the like. I'm apparently on the wrong side of the double standard, and have somehow become the person it's okay to attack personally. Oh, the irony.
I sort of thought there would be a follow-up story in the news about this lady, or at least about the person who contributed to her death, but so far I haven't seen anything. It did make top news for a while yesterday, though - and the reason might have something to do with the fact that this wasn't simply a story about an overweight woman. It's much, much more than that, but somehow the comments here got pigeonholed into being about all overweight people, and I still don't think that's the case.
Guess I wasn't done yesterday after all.
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I'm overweight too, though being nearly 6'5" tall hides it pretty well (most days -depending on my attire). One hot summer day I sat on a vinyl sofa with no shirt on. After about 15-20 minutes of sitting in the same position, I found I was stuck to the back of the sofa. Don't feel sorry for me, I survived! :D
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it is awful enough that she had no life for (at least) the last six years, and we should sympathize, however, when you don't get up TO EVEN GO TO THE BATHROOM, you can't tell me you're even trying to lose weight. i mean, omg, it's crazy to me, the whole story's just fucking crazy. and to like, STICK TO THE COUCH!!?? oh my goodness....it's too much....
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Flowbie: it's okay to make fun of everyone. It's called satire.
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Hey all you people taking about Taco Bell! You're killing me. Start talking about SUBWAY, or I'll go back to my bad habits. Ooh, the couch is calling my name...
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